In this episode, Klee and I explore the journey of following your bliss as a creative and the importance of living authentically. We share our own stories and insights on how embracing your true passions can lead to a fulfilling and genuine life. Tune in as we discuss the challenges and triumphs of staying true to yourself, both in your creative endeavors and everyday experiences. Find out more about us at http://www.rafiandklee.com
In this Podcast, Klee and I (Rafi) discuss the concept of doing less for more results and productivity. Lately, I have realized that I have been taking on too much and have come close to burn out. I am adopting a new philosophy that more isn't actually better.
WHO ARE RAFI AND KLEE STUDIOS
Curious about who we are? Visit our website and get to know us and all we do. https://rafiandklee.com/
ARE YOU A CREATIVE HUMAN?
Seeking inspiration, free resources, and a supportive hub to fuel your artistic journey? Look no further! At the Rogue Artist Community, we’ve built a vibrant space designed to empower artists, dreamers, and doers like YOU. Whether you’re an experienced artist, a budding creator, or someone curious about exploring their creativity, our hub has something for everyone. Visit us at https://rogueartistcommunity.com/ to find out more.
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Today, I want to dive into a topic that has been brought to my attention countless times—the fear of turning your passion into a source of income. I’ve heard people say, “Don’t try to make money with your hobbies; you’ll ruin them.” Well, I’m here to challenge that notion and share some insights that might just change your perspective.
First off, I want to acknowledge those of you who have made a deliberate decision not to monetize your art. Your creative space is sacred, your escape from the demands of everyday life. I get it, and this podcast isn’t aimed at convincing you otherwise. What I want to address are those who hesitate to explore the idea of turning their passion into a source of income due to the fear of losing the joy and authenticity associated with their craft.
Let’s talk about our relationship with money. From a young age, we’re conditioned to associate money with tasks we may not enjoy—chores, responsibilities, jobs. It becomes a reward and punishment system. Fast forward to adulthood, and many of us view money as something stressful, tied to bills and obligations. So, when contemplating monetizing our passion, we carry this baggage into the equation.
Here’s the key: it’s not the act of making money from your hobby that’s the issue; it’s the mindset you bring to it. Your pre-existing relationship with money can either enhance or detract from your creative experience. This doesn’t apply universally—some people navigate this effortlessly, while others find themselves trapped in a cycle of stress and resentment.
Klee and I have dedicated years to understanding this dynamic. The first time you sell a piece, you’re forced to confront your emotions around money. If you harbor negative feelings, they can seep into your artistic journey. It’s not about making money; it’s about the deeper emotions and habits associated with finances.
The trap lies in treating your art as a transaction rather than a passion. The moment your goals shift from creating meaningful art to making money, you risk losing the essence of why you started in the first place. This slippery slope leads to stress, resentment, and a feeling of selling out—creating solely for profit, not for the love of the craft.
There must be a balance. While financial stability is crucial, your motivation should extend beyond money. If you’re solely chasing dollars, you risk forgetting why you create art in the first place. The art you produce should be a reflection of what you want to see, not a product designed solely for profit.
It’s easy to get lost in the noise of analytics, marketing strategies, and the pressure to “build a business” like a “professional.” But as artists, our primary job is to create meaningful art. Don’t fall into the trap of chasing trends and trying to replicate someone else’s success. Your authenticity is your strength.
So, as you navigate the intersection of art and commerce, keep your why in focus. Remember why you started creating art—it wasn’t about making money but expressing yourself and sharing your vision. Don’t let the pursuit of profit dilute the passion that fuels your creativity.
Thanks for tuning in! Your dedication to your craft inspires me, and I’ll catch you next week. Keep creating authentically!
Today, I want to have a heart-to-heart with all of you about the realities of being a creative. Why? Well, because it’s so easy to fall into the comparison trap, especially in the age of social media, where we see other artists seemingly doing it all effortlessly. But let’s peel back the curtain and reveal the truth behind the scenes. The truth is that no matter what you see on the surface, we are all going through the following.
Creativity Is a Constant Companion
First and foremost, remember that creativity is your ever-present companion. It doesn’t come and go; it’s always there, buzzing with ideas and inspiration. Whether you’re a painter, musician, or writer, that urge to express yourself through your chosen medium is always with you. But, it’s crucial to have a system in place to capture those ideas. That’s the key to turning inspiration into action.
Emotional Rollercoaster
Being an artist is a rollercoaster of emotions. It’s a personal and introspective journey that leads to moments of self-doubt, frustration, and vulnerability. But these lows are often balanced by the exhilaration of creating something amazing or sharing something meaningful with the world. Understand that everyone goes through these emotional ups and downs, even those artists who seem invincible on the surface.
Freedom and Uncertainty
As artists, we enjoy the freedom to explore our visions and experiment with new ideas. However, this creative freedom often comes with financial and career uncertainty. You might not always know where your next paycheck is coming from, but that’s okay. Many artists find side hustles or patiently build their income over time. Be patient with your own growth, and remember that it’s a journey that takes time.
Continuous Growth
Being an artist means committing to continuous growth and self-improvement. It’s about pushing your boundaries, exploring new styles, and embracing change. This journey of self-discovery is both rewarding and demanding, but it’s essential for your artistic development and personal growth.
Leaving an Impact and Legacy
One of the motivating factors for many artists is the idea of leaving an impact or legacy. Your art has the power to inspire, provoke thought, and evoke emotions. You’re contributing to the cultural conversation just by being yourself. Your work might outlive you and influence future generations. So, think about the message you’re conveying and the legacy you want to create through your art.
In essence, being an artist is a multifaceted journey filled with passion, uncertainty, self-discovery, and the potential to make a profound impact on the world. Remember, it’s not about comparing your production rate or success to others. Instead, focus on embracing your constant creativity, riding the emotional rollercoaster, managing the freedom and uncertainty, committing to continuous growth, and understanding your power to leave an impact and legacy.
So, let’s not be discouraged by what we see on the surface. We’re all in this together, facing the same challenges and relishing in the same joys. Keep creating, keep growing, and remember, you have the potential to make a lasting mark on the world. Thanks for tuning in, and I’ll catch you next week. Adios!
In this podcast, we discuss the concept of multiple art worlds and why artists don’t have to jump through hoops to be successful. Find out more about us at http://www.rafiandklee.com
In this Podcast, Klee and I (Rafi) discuss the concept of doing less for more results and productivity. Lately, I have realized that I have been taking on too much and have come close to burn out. I am adopting a new philosophy that more isn't actually better.
WHO ARE RAFI AND KLEE STUDIOS
Curious about who we are? Visit our website and get to know us and all we do. https://rafiandklee.com/
ARE YOU A CREATIVE HUMAN?
Seeking inspiration, free resources, and a supportive hub to fuel your artistic journey? Look no further! At the Rogue Artist Community, we’ve built a vibrant space designed to empower artists, dreamers, and doers like YOU. Whether you’re an experienced artist, a budding creator, or someone curious about exploring their creativity, our hub has something for everyone. Visit us at https://rogueartistcommunity.com/ to find out more.
Thank you for supporting the Artist Life Podcast with Rafi and Klee! You rock!
In this podcast, Klee and I delve into the ever-perplexing world of art pricing. Believe me, I understand the struggles and confusion that come with it. But guess what? It doesn’t have to be that way. Find out more about us at http://www.rafiandklee.com
In this Podcast, Klee and I (Rafi) discuss the concept of doing less for more results and productivity. Lately, I have realized that I have been taking on too much and have come close to burn out. I am adopting a new philosophy that more isn't actually better.
WHO ARE RAFI AND KLEE STUDIOS
Curious about who we are? Visit our website and get to know us and all we do. https://rafiandklee.com/
ARE YOU A CREATIVE HUMAN?
Seeking inspiration, free resources, and a supportive hub to fuel your artistic journey? Look no further! At the Rogue Artist Community, we’ve built a vibrant space designed to empower artists, dreamers, and doers like YOU. Whether you’re an experienced artist, a budding creator, or someone curious about exploring their creativity, our hub has something for everyone. Visit us at https://rogueartistcommunity.com/ to find out more.
Thank you for supporting the Artist Life Podcast with Rafi and Klee! You rock!
In this podcast, Klee and I discuss feeling tired and how we approach our creative projects when we are. Find out more about us at http://www.rafiandklee.com
In this Podcast, Klee and I (Rafi) discuss the concept of doing less for more results and productivity. Lately, I have realized that I have been taking on too much and have come close to burn out. I am adopting a new philosophy that more isn't actually better.
WHO ARE RAFI AND KLEE STUDIOS
Curious about who we are? Visit our website and get to know us and all we do. https://rafiandklee.com/
ARE YOU A CREATIVE HUMAN?
Seeking inspiration, free resources, and a supportive hub to fuel your artistic journey? Look no further! At the Rogue Artist Community, we’ve built a vibrant space designed to empower artists, dreamers, and doers like YOU. Whether you’re an experienced artist, a budding creator, or someone curious about exploring their creativity, our hub has something for everyone. Visit us at https://rogueartistcommunity.com/ to find out more.
Thank you for supporting the Artist Life Podcast with Rafi and Klee! You rock!
Some people look at my life and say that I am lucky. I create art for a living, have a successful studio business, am married to my best friend, and have a large following of fans and art collectors from all around the world. I really love the work that I do, and I spend a lot of time feeling ridiculously fortunate to be in that position.
As much as some people like to say that I’m lucky, luck had nothing to do with it.
I do believe that sometimes timing, circumstance, serendipity, and privilege play into the choices you make, but even then, your deliberate action determines the course of your life.
People don’t get to do what they want for a living, get awards, come out in newspapers, or get the things they want in life simply because they are lucky. I feel like it is insulting to tell someone they are lucky when they achieve something awesome in life. Luck rarely has anything to do with what actually goes on behind the scenes.
I personally get inspired by stories of long rejection runs. For example the story of Haim Saban, who spent 8 years pitching Power Rangers. Whenever Saban presented the Power Rangers pilot, network execs would ask, “Why do you embarrass yourself with this?” Eventually, someone picked it up and the Power Rangers has been a tremendous success for 30 plus years.
J.K. Rowling was rejected by about 12 different publishers.
After just one performance, Elvis Presley was fired by Jimmy Denny, and told, “You ain’t going nowhere, son. You ought to go back to driving a truck.”
Stephen King’s first novel, Carrie, was rejected 30 times before it was published.
Steven Spielberg was rejected by the University of Southern California School of Theater, Film, and Television, THREE TIMES.
Rejection has everything to do with opinion and nothing to do with fact. Power Rangers was rejected by networks because it looked cheap and there was nothing else like it out there to compare it to. They could not SEE beyond the scope of what they knew and based their rejection on popular opinion. Rejection is simply an opinion based on the limit of that particular person’s imagination, or they just don’t like your particular brand of stuff, either way, rejection is all part of the game.
Most times, the success that you see is just the tip of the iceberg. What you see accomplished is only a tiny proportion of what that “lucky” person TRIED to accomplish.
If by “luck”, you mean putting yourself out there — all the time — into situations where you are probably going to be rejected, fail, or make a fool of yourself, then yes… you are on the right track.
A lot of people ask me how I got to where I am in life. As if there is some secret formula or answer to getting lucky. Usually, I tell them, “The hard way.” I honestly don’t feel like it is supposed to be easy, I think the suck is all part of the journey and what makes it so beautiful.
To illustrate what I mean, here’s a list of just some of the things I have been rejected for over the last 10 years. See if you can find the inspiration behind the rejection or failure.
I was rejected the first time I entered a juried gallery show.
Launching my art career was a failure for 2 years.
I was rejected for at least 143 commission projects.
I was rejected from the first gallery I approached.
I failed at launching a YouTube channel for about 5 years in a row.
I was rejected the first time I applied for a juried art festival.
I failed at traveling the country, still have several states to go.
I was rejected the second time I entered a gallery show.
My first 4 websites were epic failures.
I’ve been rejected for large community art events.
I’ve had at least 19 large art proposals rejected.
I’ve been rejected from art conferences when pitching as a speaker, I would put the number close to 60.
I have been rejected by many award judges. I’ve won 5 out of 500.
I failed epically the first time I showed my art at my own event.
I have been rejected by at least 200 businesses that I have approached with my art.
I was rejected by a museum for a proposal for an art and music event.
I’ve had countless art that has been rejected.
I’ve had countless art failures, just about every day.
I was rejected when I tried to talk to people at a black-tie event (one dude even turned his nose up at me).
I’ve been rejected by art cliques who don’t like that I’m from out of town.
I was rejected when I applied for Twitter verified (I know how ridiculous this makes me sound).
I am rejected most days by commentators on YouTube who don’t like my BRILLIANT videos.
I have been rejected by art associations who think my work is sub-par.
I have been rejected by many collectors when I show new forms of work.
I have been rejected for several large mural proposals.
I have been rejected for large international commissions.
I have had my ideas rejected by people who are in charge of an art event.
Each one of these was a blow, and that’s not even the full list, we’d be here ALL day.
Being rejected or failing is shit. It’s hard not to take it personally, and to keep going when it feels like a consistent barrage of ‘nope’ and ‘EPIC FAILS’.
But the only way to do the awesome stuff is to put yourself out there. To put yourself in a place where you might get rejected, constantly. To be in a place where you might fail big.
Everything doesn’t always come up roses, and I am not told yes every time I want to do something. That is ridiculous. It is also ridiculous to quit just because you failed, or get your feelings hurt because you were rejected. That’s why I keep going — ALL the time. I apply for things, I try things, I put myself out there. I make a huge effort to go for almost everything that piques my interest and pushes at my comfort zones.
Rafi Perez Painting Seed
I’ve been at this for 10 years and can tell you that it takes time to get to a place where you will have people call you “lucky”. Years upon years of rejection and failures that don’t ever end. Sometimes it will feel overwhelming, and you’ll have to become your biggest cheerleader to get through. But that is how you get there, you just have to do it and quit stalling to avoid failure and rejection.
Success means that you failed and were rejected more than anyone else. Growth means that you will always be facing rejection and failure throughout your career. If you are not, then you are not growing.
I’m not going to tell you to learn to love rejection because it really sucks. I will say, however, if you aren’t getting rejected every now and again, then you’re not putting yourself out there and you are not being as awesome as you can be.
Only awesome people know the sting of rejection and embrace it.
I have been very busy lately juggling a full-time art career, YouTube media studio, weekly podcasts, commissions, writing a book, art shows, giving presentations, gearing up for the holiday season and maintaining a happy & healthy relationship with my wife Klee. She is running her side of the business as well, and it is easy for both of us to get lost in the overwhelm of to-do lists, meetings, and deadlines.
First off, I’m not moaning about how busy I am. Often when someone complains about being too busy, it is actually a thinly veiled boast disguised as a complaint. I have, admittedly, worn the “busy badge” in the past during moments of insecurity. This is where you make it a point to illustrate how your life cannot possibly be silly, trivial, or meaningless because you are so busy, completely booked, in demand every hour of the day.
The problem with all that boasting is that it has a tendency to make you feel even busier than you are. Us humans tend to believe the things we tell ourselves, while also inadvertently making others feel overwhelmed too. I finally came to the conclusion that it wasn’t helping to gripe about it, in fact, it was making the overwhelm worse. Besides, if you’re genuinely that busy… are you sure you can spare the time to be bitching about it?
Another unhealthy way I started to give into “being busy” was paying too much attention to the rapid pace that the world seemed to be heading in. I began realizing that the urgency-addicted culture that I lived in was having a huge impact on the way I lived my day to day life, and that was an eye-opener for me. I was convinced that just a bit more speed, time, productivity and I could stay in control. I started to grow unwilling to tolerate the discomfort of slowing down. Taking a break, even a small one, even for good reason, started to seem unproductive.
When you find yourself on this treadmill of urgency, it can feel unacceptable to slow down. As it turns out, the idea that you need to go full throttle all the time is completely unproductive. Your mind and body need breaks from what you are doing or you will end up burning out pretty quickly. I now take a 15 to 30 minute break every 2 hours, even during the busiest workdays. Believe or not, I get so much more done now than I did when I pushed through, and my days are less stressful and much more enjoyable.
A to-do list can be both a blessing and a curse. It is a trackable list of tasks that fuels the ambition of getting completion in a day, but adding one more item to the list feels effortless, so it’s dangerously easy to over-commit. I feel like I used to have lists that were a mile long, and when I didn’t complete them, I felt like a failure that day. I then went into the next day feeling like I was already behind.
I now have a cap on my daily to-do. Instead of an open-ended list, I only allow myself to schedule 5 items for the day. If I complete the items on my list, then I’ll add additional stuff that is small and easy to do. If I do not finish my list, I add the incompleted items to the top of the next day. I also have a Fantastic 4 list that I write about in my book, but that involves special tasks that are designed to break large overwhelming projects into tiny chunks.
Most importantly, remember that life is short and you don’t want to spend these precious days feeling overwhelmed and stressed out. It is something I remind myself of every day as I sit silently for ten minutes, battling the voices that like to say I’m being unproductive.
Give those voices the middle finger, and enjoy your day.
Today Klee and I were talking about the art stock market on our podcast. That’s the name we coined for the big-ticket commodities art market that you see blasted all over the news and in documentaries. Considering the amount of press that gets focused on large art auctions and big-name galleries, it’s easy to think that you are not actually an artist until you’ve somehow made it there.
It got me thinking about the way that people perceive the art world in general. When you think about it, what people call the art market in the media, is only about 1% of the actual art market. There is no mention of the everyday people that make up the art market, the real art market, the real world.
The real art world is made up of one-on-one interactions, and I think we forget that sometimes in this media blasted quick paced world. It’s not about how much money the art sold for, or how wealthy the collector is, or how much prestige the sale brought the artist. Honestly, the corporate companies I worked for would print out prestige in the form of “You did real good.” certificates, and I would put them in cheap frames and hang them on my wall as a symbol of how important I was. I feel like we miss the point when we confuse success with awards and accolades. You can add them to your resume, but I feel like we’ve lost the point of what it is all about.
It’s about the friendships developed, and the relationships we establish as artists, with the people that connect with us through the art we create. It’s about the creative process and the astonishing ability to face rejection every day and share your art with the world. It is about the collector who proudly displays your artwork on their wall, or wears it on their body, or listens to it in their car. It is about that connection that would not have been possible if that individual artist did not break through the barriers of fear and share their creations with the world. It would not have been possible without the vast amount of humans out there who buy art because of the value it has to them, not because it has market value.
As an artist who had to make his own way, I have trained myself to see the world quite differently than I used to. Where I once had hopelessness in an impossible art career system, I now see the opportunities, the misdirections to be avoided, and the hope for everyone to pursue their creative spirit.
I think it is easy to forget in this world that is so focused on money and success, that we artists create because of the love of creation. We create to express ourselves and bring back a childlike sense of imagination, wonder, and feeling into our world. Creations that can remind us all to pause and appreciate.
Just food for thought.
I also wanted to announce that my book is fully funded! Thank you all so much! The Rogue Artist’s Survival Guide is becoming a reality. I am going quiet for a couple of weeks on social media and YouTube as I finish up the book and do some final edits. You can still pre-order the book at https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-rogue-artist-s-survival-guide-by-rafi-perez
This morning I found myself contemplating my life and the different ways I have lived it. Since I am in the process of writing a book, I am looking at notes and different events in my life that lead me to this point. I am a very happy individual, but I also spent the majority of my life feeling trapped and unhappy.
Growing up, I was influenced by television shows, parents, friends, friends families, teachers, the weird neighbor with the giant hairy mole, and pretty much everything and everyone else in society. I was told that my airy-fairy ideas of becoming an artist, musician, or creative were a cute thing to hold onto as long as I was a child, but eventually I would have to grow out of it. The influences were subtle and mostly unspoken. Most tv shows that I loved involved the man having a job he hated to support his family, the wife stayed at home and took care of the kids, and that’s just how it was. Usually, the job sucked really bad, but the man took solace in the fact that his sacrifice was for his family.
I gotta tell you… that whole scenario of putting your dreams aside, working a job you hate and sacrificing your happiness for the greater good is a piece of crap-turd. First off, that sucks for the man. I was that man for 20 years, and I can tell you, it sucked pretty bad. Second, I wasn’t benefiting my children at all, if anything I was teaching them first hand the same bad influence I had growing up. Third, I started to secretly resent my family because I felt that my sacrifice was being taken for granted, and that slowly tore everything apart.
After that experience I realized that no one had a handle on happiness or what you should do with your life, just a plethora of opinions based on other peoples’ opinions, and the majority of those opinions were outdated crap. It wasn’t out-of-the-box-thinking-trailblazers telling me my dreams were impossible, these were people that had conformed to living a life like everyone else, and most of them weren’t feeling fulfilled or happy.
Listen, I’m not saying you have to work for yourself in order to be happy, you can have a job somewhere and be happy and feel fulfilled. Unfortunately, I think there are a lot of people that just settle for what they can get and ignore the yearning that comes from within, and in my opinion, that’s just misery. I think whether you pursue your own career or you work for someone else, it’s really all about how you choose to live; whether or not you are willing to blaze your own trail or simply conform to the status quo.
Blaze a trail: Find a new path or method; begin a new undertaking. By extension, to be the first to do something, often that which is later emulated or built upon by others. Note: New trails or routes through forests were often marked by `blazing’ which involved making white marks called `blazes’ on tree trunks, usually by chipping off a piece of bark.
If there is anything that I pride myself on now, it is that I stubbornly do things my own way and continue to move forward despite the fact that I may have to pole vault over obstacles every once in a while.
That being said, if there are portions of the well-worn path that suit my needs, I don’t avoid them, but I make sure not to allow myself to get comfortable with the easiness of it.
One thing I can take away from these very unfinished thoughts that I’m sharing with you is this: No matter what, you have a choice. You get to decide how you are going to live your life. Some people may be disappointed by your decisions, and they may even get angry at you… some may never talk to you again. Most people will come around eventually, and they’ll say things like “I always believed in you and knew you could do it” despite what they may have said in the beginning.
I think that no matter what, it is always worth looking at your life and answering one question… if I was on my deathbed right now, would I have any regrets?
Just food for thought.
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